Halting problem discussion

Interesting discussion in avva's LJ initiated by smb called talash .

"However the more one-tries to go to the foundations of "computation", "knowledge", "information" the more scholastic it becomes. It resembles theological debates of XI-XIII century. If "object A" exists then we can prove such and such wonderful results... And we belive that "object A" exists.

Scientific value of this stuff may be questionable, but it is definitely a great fun!"

Penrose, Shadows of the Mind

Related to the previous note.

Ironically I've just started reading Penrose's book from the chapter that talks about quantum effects in brain. Sounds like tremendous crap so far.

What looks strange:
1. Nobody tried to mix these two crazy ingredients together -- so I'll be the first.
2. Another attempt of cave-man reasoing using cave-man tools. Call your stone axe - quantum resonance -- does it sound better?
3. No machine will ever be able to understand how dumb it is. Including ourselves.
4. Occam razor. Why pull by the ears fashionable theories when we do not understand what "simple" nets of 10^11 strangely-connected computers can do?